Ep.4: The Joey Hart Story - Part 2

Feb 10

Welcome back to Conspiracyville. In this episode, we dive deeper into the trial of Joey Hart, dissect the surveillance footage, and expose inconsistencies in witness testimony. Below, you'll find detailed time-stamped video references so you can see for yourself what really happened. If you're following along with the trial transcript, we’ve also included references to key sections where major discrepancies occur.

Key Moments in the Videos

Link to videos on our Youtube channel

Link to full trial transcript

Video Events with Time Stamps & Name of each Video in Chronological Order

People in these videos:

Tristan Johnson - White hat black/dark jacket - male

Kurt Norland - Black hat & black hoodie - male

Christian Carl - Big guy, red shirt - male

Bobby - Mohamaod Si - Black Jacket, glasses, khaki pants - male

April Big, dark skinned, black hair, white shirt - female

Posey - Black hat, mask, black jacket, khaki pants - male

Curtis/DJ - Orange UT tshirt - male

Lauren P. - Long black hair, black hat - female

Lauren Whatever - Long blond hair - female

Joey - Plaid - Grey/brown sometimes he has a hat on, jeans - male

Video 1 Inside the Bar 1 - 2:30:08 am - Bobby touches April on the shoulder. She even kind of falls backward towards him. He drags his hand all the way across her back towards her left hip.
Video 1 inside the bar 1 - 2:30:39 am - Bobby has been talking to Joey & April at the bar table in the top right corner of the screen and throws his hands in the air - because Joey told him to stop touching April.
Video 1 inside the bar 1 - 2:30:34 am - Bobby walks away and flips Joey the bird backwards - behind him. -That’s why Joey started towards him and April stopped him and they hugged.
Video 2 - Inside the Bar 2 at 2:36:41 am - Bobby pokes Joey in the chest and Joey grabs his hand and pushes him away. This is the bottom right corner. Joey is standing on the karaoke stage.
Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:37:12 am - Lauren approaches Joey and Bobby and asks Joey to leave. Bobby follows Joey all the way around the bar.
Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:37:51 am - It looks to me like Bobby puts his hand on Joey’s back. - So the second time he’s touched Joey tonight. Joey ignores Bobby and is talking to Lauren.
Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:38:01 am - Bobby grabs Joey from the back around the neck.
It does look to me like Posey is trying to get Bobby off of Joey - It looks like he has a hold of Bobby.
Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:38:07 am - Lauren yells for Christian - you can pretty much read her lips.
On Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:38:15 - Christian Carl punches Joey in the face.
-2:38:19 am - Christian punches Joey in the face again.
-Joey’s hands are up and outstretched
-Joey never hits anyone.
Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:38:18 Kurt Norland walks in the back door followed by Siv at 2:38:20
Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:38:26 Siv has walked all the way up to Joey and the altercation.
Video 2 Inside the Bar 2 - 2:38:30 - Joey is reaching for the doorway, obviously trying to get out the door and he is dragged beyond the door into - maybe a hallway or a corner - You can see Siv is blocking the camera view of Joey. It looks like Joey is on the other side of Siv, kind of pinned in that corner.
Video 4 Back Alley 1 - 2:38:46 am - A girl drags Bobby out the back door into the ally and she falls on top of him.
On Video 4 Back Alley 1 - 2:38:55 - Siv and a man with a black jacket and red hat drag Joey out the back door into the ally. Siv falls to the ground at the top of the stairs. Joey falls all the way down the stairs. The guy in the red hat drags Joey down the alley toward the camera followed right behind by Siv.
Video 4 Back Alley 1 - 2:39:00 - Joey is dragged past Bobby and the girl who pulled him out who are still on the ground, sort of on their knees.
Video 4 Back Alley 1 - 2:39:03 - Siv ducks under the scaffolding and Joey is being dragged across the ground.
Video 4 Back Alley 1 - 2:39:07 - Siv, the red hat guy and Joey are all off the screen, sort of under the camera. Joey testifies in court that Siv had tackled him right there.
Video 4 Back Alley 1 - 2:39:18 - Siv comes back onto the screen, walking toward the alley with his back to the camera.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:39:10 - Joey walks out of the lower right corner of the screen towards the parking lot.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:39:12 - The top of Siv’s head can be seen in the bottom middle of the screen.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:39:18 - Joey walks back towards the bar some. It looks like he’s looking for April.
Video 3 - Back Alley 1 - 2:39:25 - Siv is looking in the direction where Joey and April would be at that time.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:39:29 - Joey turns around, unbuttoning his shirt and taking it off and looks like he’s waiting for someone.
Video 3 - Back Alley 1 - 2:39:25 - Siv is looking in the direction where Joey and April would be at that time.
Video 3 - Back Alley 1 - 2:39:37 - Siv walks to the right side of the scaffolding, away from the rest of the people in the alley.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:39:37 am - April walks into the screen in the bottom right corner. She’s walking towards Joey.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:39:45 am - April turns around toward the bar and says something to someone, then keeps walking towards Joey.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:39:53 - Joey takes his shirt all the way off.
Video 3 - Back Alley 1 - Kurt Norland approaches Siv under the scaffolding.
Video 5 Parking Lot 1 - 2:40:07 - Joey helps April into the car and goes and gets in the driver’s seat.
Video 3 Back Alley 1 - 2:40:22 - Bobby approaches Norland and Siv under the scaffolding.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:40:47 - Bobby and Siv have been talking and Bobby walks back towards the alley.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:40:46 - Norland follows Bobby back into the alley.
-A group of 6ish people are huddled in the alley.
Video 6 - Parking Lot 2 - 2:41:22 - Tristan Johnson comes into the lower right side of the screen and walks towards his car, which is parked on the far side of Joey’s car.
Video 6 - Parking Lot 2 - 2:41:51 - Tristan looks toward the driver’s seat of Joey’s car and turns and walks towards Joey’s car.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:41:57 - Pauses at the front of Joey’s car between Joey’s car and the white truck on the near side of Joey’s car.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:41:59 - Bobby is standing in the lower left hand corner of the screen near the entrance to the alley. Siv is still under the scaffolding.
-People start working their way back out of the alley into the parking lot again.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:42:02 - Tristan heads to his car
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:42:10 - Tristan is in his car.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:42:18 am - Norland comes back out of the alley and joins Siv again and Siv walks out from under the scaffolding.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:42:43 - Norland turns around and starts talking to the group of people and Siv walks into the parking lot towards where Joey went.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:42:48 - Siv walks out toward the parking lot and out of the screen.
-Bobby is still in the lower left corner of the screen.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:42:50 - Siv walks into the screen toward the parking area.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:07 - Siv turns around toward the bar and throws his hands in the air.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:10 - Siv turns back around and keeps walking away from the camera.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:15 - Norland walks into the screen on the left side.
Video 6 parking Lot 2 - 2:43:16 - Siv stops in front of Joey’s car and turns toward it.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:18 - Norland turns and starts walking down the driveway between the Brew & Cue and shopping center.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:20 - Siv starts walking toward where Joey is.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:43:22 - Norland comes into the screen on the right hand side. You can see part of his jacket.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:24 - Siv is out of view of the camera, between the white truck and Joey’s vehicle. The flash of light could be a gunshot.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:27 - You can see Siv jerk backward over the truck hood.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:43:28 - Bobby walks out of the screen under the camera.
Video 6 Parking Lot 2 - 2:43:28 - Potential gunshot flashes.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:43:31 - Norland comes hopping across the driveway from the right of the screen to the left.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:43:31 - Potential gunshot flash
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:43:32 - Potential gunshot flash
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:43:37 - Joey pulls out of the parking lot and leaves.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:43:38 - Norland heads towards the parking lot and out of the screen on the right side.
Video 3 Back Alley 2 - 2:43:49 - Posey comes out the back door into the alley.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:43:40 - Norland is seen crouching behind a vehicle. It looks like he’s trying to see if it’s safe yet. He heads across the parking lot to the body.

Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:43:49 - Norland is at the front of the car and goes out of view behind the car.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:44:16 - Norland pops back up on the other side of the car, steps to the side and seems like he’s making a phone call, probably 911.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:44:26 - Tristan Johnson pulls out the parking space and stops. This must be where he tells Norland that he saw it and the bartender knows him. Norland starts walking toward Johnson.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:44:58 - Johnson leaves.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:45:25 - Posey comes into the screen on the bottom right and starts working his way toward Siv.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:45:31 - Christian Carl enters the screen from the left side, headed toward Siv.
Video 6 Parking lot 2 - 2:45:47 - Lots of people are near or headed toward Siv.

Key Witness Testimony vs. Video Evidence

One of the biggest problems in Joey’s trial was the way witness testimony conflicted with the actual surveillance footage. Below are just a few examples:

Christian Carl’s Testimony (Trial Transcript: Pages 262-263)
- He claims he saw Joey grab Bobby first, but in the video, Christian never even looks toward the bar until Joey is already being attacked.
- He says he 'pushed them outside,' but the video shows Joey being dragged past the door while Bobby exits first.
- Carl repeatedly states he was just 'breaking up a fight,' but the video shows him actively punching Joey multiple times.
Juror Selection Issue
- A juror who had previously used a firearm in self-defense was dismissed without clear justification, despite their firsthand knowledge of the fear Joey experience.

Austin Presley’s Story: A Pattern of Violence at Brew & Cue

In this episode, we spoke to Austin Presley, who had a near-identical experience at the Brew & Cue just months after Joey’s case. He was attacked without provocation, swarmed by patrons, and almost reached for his firearm in self-defense. His account further proves that this bar has a repeated history of aggression, yet law enforcement and prosecutors continue to ignore it.

Final Thoughts: The Fight for Justice Continues

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We’ll be back next week to break down even more of this case, compare additional witness testimony, and hear directly from Joey. Stay tuned!

Chelsea Cagle